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Comment on Alcoholics anonymous – comedy sketch – Never Better – BBC comedy by 0ViewTube0

0ViewTube0 — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:04:20 +0000

In his will, Bill Wilson assigned a percentage of his worth (accomplished through monetary gifts from Alcoholics Anonymous) to his mistress, Helen. This meant his widow, Lois Wilson, was forced to forever be connected to a woman whom she likely despised. And Lois Wilson lived on for many, many, years…

Comment on Alcoholics anonymous – comedy sketch – Never Better – BBC comedy by rextar23

rextar23 — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:18:47 +0000

“We must always maintain personal anonymouty at the level of press, radio and films…”

Comment on Alcoholics anonymous – comedy sketch – Never Better – BBC comedy by dmeskouris

dmeskouris — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:58:29 +0000

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Comment on Alcoholics anonymous – comedy sketch – Never Better – BBC comedy by raysny

raysny — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:28:20 +0000

@tomviolin
Significant? You call 5% significant?

Comment on Alcoholics anonymous – comedy sketch – Never Better – BBC comedy by raysny

raysny — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:00:45 +0000

@LMW87MMA
You sound like one of those people who pushed laetrile as a cancer cure. A good portion of those who listened died and didn’t have to.

Comment on Alcoholics anonymous – comedy sketch – Never Better – BBC comedy by tomviolin

tomviolin — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:52:58 +0000

@raysny It’s an anonymous program, so I don’t know where you get those statistics, but I know for a fact that it works for many people I personally know. They aren’t statistics, they are living, breathing people with families who thank God for bringing their loved ones back from the brink. Even if it did only work for 5%, that’s 5% who are clean and sober today who might otherwise be dead. Neither I, or anyone, has ever claimed AA works for everyone. “Save one life, you save the world entire.”

Comment on Alcoholics anonymous – comedy sketch – Never Better – BBC comedy by tomviolin

tomviolin — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:38:13 +0000

Another point: since it is a free program, any statistic is totally meaningless. First, since it is free, there will be lots of people who aren’t serious about rehab or recovery and so of course they “fail”. Secondly, no one tracks this stuff so no one knows. Finally I believe court-ordered AA is totally wrong as AA is supposed to be voluntary and anonymous.

Comment on Alcoholics anonymous – comedy sketch – Never Better – BBC comedy by TheCauzeOfWetPantiez

TheCauzeOfWetPantiez — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:01:57 +0000

AA is for sissy quitters that let booze get outta hand but ohhh the babes
I used to go to the meetings to get chicks
Id sit next to the hottest one and whisper as I ran my hand up her thigh “Wanna go for a couple drinks later?”
Then Id let them get nice and tanked on my nickel cause we all know the chicks in AA are there cause they cant keep their legs closed when they get piss drunk
Hell most women turn whore when drunk but the babes in AA are crazy wild on the demon liquor
CHEERS !!

Comment on Alcoholics anonymous – comedy sketch – Never Better – BBC comedy by raysny

raysny — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:35:51 +0000

@tomviolin A 5% success rate is the same as no treatment at all, and that doesn’t take in AA’s higher mortality rate. George Vaillant, former Harvard professor, researcher, and AA trustee set out to prove that AA works, instead he found, “Not only had we failed to alter the natural history of alcoholism, but our death rate of three percent a year was appalling.”

Comment on Alcoholics anonymous – comedy sketch – Never Better – BBC comedy by tomviolin

tomviolin — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:44:22 +0000

That Vaillant quote isn’t even about AA! He was referring to a study of detox patients from a specific clinic-part of a larger longitudinal study of alcoholism spanning 50 years. He spent decades studying the lives of 100s of alcoholics.

After all that work, here’s what Vaillant said: “40 percent of all recovery has probably occurred through AA.”

He spent decades studying life histories of 100s of alcoholics, who were carefully observed for 50 years.

But somehow you, @raysny, know better.